Showing posts with label Rick Warren. Show all posts
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Thursday, March 5, 2015

Addressing Critics of the Discerning - Part 1

Once in a while, I'll have a conversation with a pastor, usually a Southern Baptist pastor, who has read some of my articles, and find it puzzling that I would be calling out such leaders as Russell Moore or Ronnie Floyd. What I often notice however, is that while most of the time this pastor will be a very Gospel-focused pastor, and has no interest in leading their flock astray, is that many times they either have no idea what our leaders are involved in, or they have a weak or soft view on troubling issues such as ecumenism or heresies in the church, or an improper understanding of the purpose of the Protestant Reformation. I would like to address some of these misconceptions here that I am often faced with by critics of my point of view. In this article, I will be addressing some of the misconceptions as it applies to our leaders cozy-ing up with the papacy. I may address some other misconceptions in other articles, concerning other errors, such as mysticism, charismania, and word-faith heresies entering the SBC unchecked. This is in no way meant to be an offense against such pastors who are truly dedicated to God's work, it is only meant to address criticisms that I regularly receive from those who may not have a full understanding of what's at stake.

Misconception # 1: Russell Moore, Rick Warren, etc, going to the Vatican could be a good thing because they "may" be taking the Gospel to those who need it, and agreement on moral issues is a plus for the work of Christ. Agreement on moral issues doesn't necessarily constitute endorsement.

Response # 1: The problem isn't with our agreement on a moral truth, it's with the fellowship aspect of our actions. Ephesians 5:11 says "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them." The word translated as "fellowship" here in this context is the Greek word "sugkoinoneo." According to Thayer, it primarly means "to become a partaker together with others," and according to Strongs, "to share in company," or "to co-participate."

This is exactly what our leaders are doing. They are "co-participating" with a false church on spiritual endeavors. They are becoming "partakers" with the RC on moral issues, and the reason we are commanded NOT to do so is because it's damaging to the Gospel. While we can stand on one side of the aisle, and say "I agree with the pope on the sanctity of marriage, I cannot stand with you on spiritual endeavors because we do not agree on the essentials." We cannot be willing to compromise the Gospel by publicly taking a stance in which it seems we are in full communion with an apostate church. Being "salt and light" entails standing apart from the darkness, and exposing the darkness, not joining in, co-mingling with, having fellowship with, and praying darkness.

We should be evangelizing all Roman Catholics, and calling them to repentance, and to leave the RC church, yet instead, we have leaders of the SBC doing the following:


  • Al Mohler declaring "there are millions of Christians in the Catholic church." - source
  • Russell Moore blogging: "I disagree with the primacy of the papacy, however, I agree with the pope on the Gospel, and other issues..." (paraphrased) - source
  • Russell Moore - "I'm unsure of the differences between my and the pope's gospel focus." - more info
  • Russell Moore tweets: "@pontifex is a very good choice for @Time person of the year." - view tweet here
  • Then we have Rick Warren tweeting:


This is not being salt and light, and standing apart from darkness, preserving the truth and exposing the error. This is ecumenism at it's best. Ecumenism is today what the inquisition used to be. It's an effort to unify the world's religions under the authority of the pope, and unfortunately the SBC's leadership is slowly taking us in that direction.


Misconception # 2: While I disagree with many of the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church, I also disagree that the whole church is Apostate, and that there are many who are saved in the Catholic church.

Response # 2: The official doctrines of Rome are designed, by nature, to FORBID you from believing the true Gospel. Take for example the following quotes from the official doctrines of the Catholic Church:
"If anyone says the sinner is justified by faith alone, meaning that nothing else is required to cooperate in order to obtain the grace of justification, let him be anathema." -Canon 9, Sixth Session, Council of Trent
The Catholic Church, "condemns with anathema those who say that indulgences are useless or that the Church does not have the power to grant them." - Sacred Liturgy, Chapter IV, paragraph 8, Vatican Council II
By believing these doctrines, one cannot be saved, as they are diametrically opposed to the true Gospel of Jesus Christ.
  • Other damnable heresies of the Catholic church include, but are not limited to:
  • The Catholic church is the one true church - CCC 2105
  • Infallibility of the Catholic Church - CCC 2035
  • Only the Roman Catholic Church has authority to interpret Scripture - CCC 100
  • The Pope is the head of the church and has the authority of Christ - CCC 2034
  • The Roman Catholic Church is necessary for salvation - CCC 846
  • Sacred Tradition equal to scripture - CCC 82
  • Forgiveness of sins, salvation, is by faith and works - CCC 2036
  • "Moved by the Holy Spirit, we can merit for ourselves and for others all the graces needed to attain eternal life, as well as necessary temporal goods." - CCC 2027
  • Penance is necessary for salvation - CCC 980
  • Purgatory a necessity for cleansing our sins - CCC 1031, CCC 1475
  • The Communion elements become the actual body and blood of Christ - CCC 1374, CCC 1376
If someone is Roman Catholic, and they do end up coming to a saving faith in Jesus Christ, they will ultimately have no choice but to leave the Roman Catholic church, once they realize that what their church is teaching is contrary to the truth.

Misconception # 3: Luther and the reformers really didn't believe that the Roman Catholic Church was a "false church." They only sought to correct some of the errors that they saw in the church. They did not believe the RCC was apostate, and neither should we.

Response # 3: It is true, that Luther, who is widely held (yet debatable for another time) to be the originator of the "Protestant" Reformation originally only sought to bring to light what he viewed as error in his church. However, Luther is not the be-all-end-all of the reformation. He may not have used the exact term "false church," but the sentiments were certainly there. Consider the following quotes from Luther and the reformers:
"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist...personally I declare that I owe the Pope no other obedience than that to Antichrist." - Martin Luther
"The oracles of God foretold the rising of an Antichrist in the Christian Church: and in the Pope of Rome, all the characteristics of that Antichrist are so marvelously answered that if any who read the Scriptures do not see it, there is a marvelous blindness upon them." - Cotton Mather
"that tyranny which the pope himself has for so many ages exercised over the church" and that the pope should be recognized as "the very antichrist, and son of perdition, of whom Paul speaks." (Taken from The Zurich Letters, pg. 199 by John Knox.)
John Wesley said of the papacy,
"He[the pope] is in an emphatical sense, the Man of Sin, as he increases all manner of sin above measure. And he is, too, properly styled the Son of Perdition, as he has caused the death of numberless multitudes, both of his opposers and followers... He it is...that exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped...claiming the highest power, and highest honour...claiming the prerogatives which belong to God alone." -Antichrist and His Ten Kingdoms by John Wesley, pg. 110.
and consider the Westminster confession of faith:
CHAPTER XXV PARAGRAPH VI. There is no other head of the Church but the Lord Jesus Christ: nor can the Pope of Rome in any sense be head thereof; but is that Antichrist, that man of sin and son of perdition, that exalteth himself in the Church against Christ, and all that is called God.
One thing we have to remember is that the reformers were undoing thousands of years of false doctrine. Most had been raised and trained in the Catholic church, and it was a major deal for them to stand up against the pope, and the doctrines of Rome. Although most of the reformers were still flawed in much of their doctrine, the fact that they took a bold stance to seek the truth, and expose the error says much of them, and their character. They did not have several hundred years of expositional preaching, and biblical commentary, and established doctrine to help shape their understanding of biblical truths. They, for the most part, started from scratch, and even started with the process of translation. We owe it to these brave men, and to Jesus Christ who is in control of all things, not to work against the reformation, and concede to Rome, but to continue to stand against it, and expose their error. We should not tolerate our leaders today holding hands with the mother of apostates, we should be holding them accountable for doing so.



Friday, February 20, 2015

Russell Moore's ERLC: Change Agents of the United Nations

**Note This article is a follow-up of an article I wrote on Russell Moore and advancing a socialist agenda within the Church. It is not my intention to call into question the personal salvation of anyone in this article, nor to promote any conspiracy theory, but to simply expose the facts as I see them, and to attempt to conclude their effects on the Church. 

It is no doubt that Russell Moore has worked his way up to the top of the largest Protestant denomination in the world, only to promote ecumenism, and UN friendly ideas through the use of his position within the Church. But there is more to it. The Ethics and Religious Liberties Commission as a whole is nothing more than a branch of the United Nations, that is now intertwined with the Southern Baptist Convention, to bring about a change of thought and influence among church-goers.

The ERLC is listed as a Non-Governmental Organization (NGO) within the United Nations. You might not think this is a big deal, but according to ECOSOC Resolution 1996/31, there is a certain set of criteria that the NGO must meet in order to be granted this status, including:

• The aims and purposes of the organization shall be in conformity with the spirit, purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations.
• The organization shall undertake to support the work of the United Nations
• [They must] demonstrate that their programme of work is of direct relevance to the aims and purposes of the United Nations

These are just a few of the requirements of an organization to be listed as an NGO of the UN. So what difference does this make? Well, since the agenda of the United Nations is the destruction of independent sovereign countries, the destruction of Biblical Christianity, and the establishment of a one world order, united under a single world religion, one can only assume that the ERLC and it's members are intentionally on board with this plan.

The former President of the ERLC, the same man that unabashedly spent SBC money to build Muslim mosques around the country as part of the Anti-Defamation league's interfaith coalition, Dr. Richard Land's book, "Imagine! A God Blessed America," he portrays Christians as "radical change agents" who are "committed to the common good." We all know that the phrase "common good" is a buzz word for Communitarianism. Richard Land, along with emergent pastor Rick Warren, is also a member of the Fabian Socialist Council on Foreign Relations. In a New York Times article, Richard Land is quoted as saying:
I’ve had some older conservative leaders say: ‘Richard, stop this. You’re going to split the conservative coalition,’
Dr. Land continued.
I say it might split the old conservative coalition, but it won’t split the new one. And if the new one is going to be a governing coalition, it’s going to have to have a lot of Hispanics in it. And you don’t get a lot of Hispanics in your coalition by engaging in anti-Hispanic anti-immigration rhetoric.
In other words, he wants to trade the old conservative coalition for a new, pro-socialist, pro-democratic "conservative" coalition. While he may seem to be interested in maintaining a "moral majority," he doesn't mind doing it at the expense of turning conservatives more moderate or liberal in fiscal policies, which ultimately undermine morality, and he has used his evangelical leadership at the ERLC to do so. So was he successful? Was his retirement from the ERLC a smokescreen for change?

Then there's Al Mohler, a founding fellow of the ERLC's Research Institute, and also Vice Chairman of the ecumenical radio program, and UN NGO Focus on the Family. Al Mohler agrees with Communitarian activist, Jane Jacobs in an article he writes in 2006, that "genuine community" is being destroyed by the construction of "elevated freeways." Jacobs was funded by the globalist organization, the Rockefeller Foundation. Communitarianism naturally results in restrictive laws, such as laws prohibiting certain modes of travel, under the veneer of pollution control. Mohler, being a regular traveler of these "elevated freeways," must consider himself exempt, because of his elite status, from these travel restrictions he would like to see imposed on others for the "good of the community."

The globalists have been attempting to co-opt the Church by infiltrating our seminaries. Dr. Mohler is the president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. It is the largest seminary in the United States. The school is accredited by the Association of Theological Schools, an ecumenical organization that sets standards of accreditation to seminaries across a variety of denominational lines, including Catholic schools. The organization is also funded by the Rockefellers.

Mohler tends to spend much time associating with other religious groups, like Mormons, on the grounds of saving the country from the decline of moralism. Much like Rick Warren and other Fabian Socialists, Dr. Mohler knows that by influentially undermining the exclusivity of Jesus Christ they are eliminating one of the biggest threats to Marxism. While they speak of Biblical authority on one hand in high regards, their actions much of the time seem to coincide with the agenda of the United Nations. I'm not doubting that Dr. Mohler, as President of the largest seminary in the country, has had a positive, conservative influence on the SBC as a whole, but this tends to be how front organizations work. They tend to speak and act profusely one way, while subtly and/or secretly working on their agenda another way.

Enter Russell Moore. Russell Moore, Dr. Richard Land's replacement, and current president of the ERLC, has been heavy handed when speaking on behalf of the SBC in matters of faith and public policy. He recently came out and said that Christian judges who disagree with the striking down of the same sex marriage ban by a federal judge in the state of Alabama should either uphold the law (affirming same sex marriage), or resign, despite the fact that the decision is against the state's constitution. In other words, civil disobedience has no place among public servants, but it's okay among regular citizens. He is basically saying that you can't be both a Christian, and a public servant, and if you are a public servant, you must check your Christian beliefs at the door, or resign. He is in effect setting up a false dichotomy that can't be found anywhere in Scripture, however, it seems to be perfectly compatible with his globalist agenda.

Globalism is often pushed under the guise of environmentalism, and the UN is one of the biggest players in the league. One of the top agendas of the United Nations is it's Environmental Programme (UNEP). Russell Moore, again, as head of the ERLC which subscribes to the agenda of the United Nations, is also on board with their environmental program, which seeks to regulate and criminalize certain many environmental activities. Moore referred to his home town of Biloxi, MS as an "oil-drenched crime scene" during the accidental gulf oil spill of 2010. He shares some of the same ideas that the UN does when it comes to regulation of environmental activity through fines and fees–activity that by nature could only stifle the economic growth of developed countries, while benefiting only the undeveloped countries. In other words, he supports the redistribution of wealth from developed countries to poor countries–socialism, all while hiding behind the veil of conservative Christianity.

So how can these so-called leaders speak out against socialism, and take a conservative, Christian stance on social and fiscal issues, all while upholding, agreeing with, and promoting the UN's agenda? Is the ERLC simply a front organization for the UN? Are these leaders nothing more than change agents infiltrating the Evangelical church for the purpose of leading believers into the acceptance of a New World Order?

To see how Russell Moore has used his position to advance socialism within the church, click here.















Wednesday, February 4, 2015

Evangelicals: Fornicating with the Harlot

There is no doubt that the word "evangelical" doesn't mean the same thing it used to mean. The word is used to describe almost anyone who says the name "Jesus" these days. Mormons are referred to as Evangelicals, as are Jehova's Witnesses, and other unBiblical sects like the New Apostolic Reformation. There is even a growing movement within the Roman Catholic church today calling themselves evangelicals. But I believe this to be a deceitful tactic of Rome to continue in their centuries long war against the Word of God, and the Protestant Reformation.

Evangelicals used to be a small minority. They were the ones who preached the Word of God from the Bible, and took that truth to all the nations, standing against the enemies of the Gospel. Now that the word "evangelical" encompasses a multitude of religious sects and cults, evangelicals can be considered the majority among the visible church. When I say "visible church," I'm not referring to born again believers, who proclaim their salvation by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone. I'm referring to anyone who claims to be Christian, including Roman Catholics. Sadly, the true Evangelical church are embracing many of these others as brothers in Christ. I'm beginning to believe that they are no longer doing this inadvertently, and that they know exactly what they are doing. I believe they are holding hands with the Beast of Revelation, and that they are helping to build the Harlot Church as described in Revelation 17.

Described in Revelation 17 is a great harlot, who makes war with the lamb (Rev 17:15). Lets break down this chapter and see if we can identify who this whore is.

  • She sits on many waters—that is, many multitudes of peoples, nations and tongues. She has power and influence over these people (Rev 17:1,150.
  • She fornicates with the kings and leaders of the nations of the world (Rev 17:2). This figuratively means that this woman "cheats" on the true God, and worships false Gods, not necessarily literal sexual fornication.
  • She sits upon a scarlet-colored beast (Rev 17:3). This is representative of the blood of the saints (Rev 17:6). She sits on top of this, and prides herself over it.
  • Full of names of blasphemy (Rev 17:3). She has given herself a multitude of blasphemous titles. Titles that should belong to God, or that she is not worthy of holding. (e.g. His Holiness, and Vicar of Christ)
  • Has seven heads and ten horns (Rev 17:3). This represents the ten individual kingdoms (European nations) of the empire in which she controls from atop the seven hills she sits upon. Rome, since ancient times, has been known as the "City of Seven Hills."
  • She is adorned in purple and scarlet, gilded with gold and precious stones and pearls (Rev 17:4). What religious entity can you think of that decks itself out with these priceless things?
  • She holds in her hand a golden cup, full of abominations of uncleanness and of her whoredom (Rev 17:4). She carries with her, and proclaims daily, in the name of Christ, these abominations and blasphemous rituals.
  • Written upon her forehead was a name written: "Secret, Babylon the Great, the Mother of the Whores, and the Abominations of the earth" (Rev 17:5). In other words, all of the other whores, false churches and religious cults, and blasphemous entities are spawned by this mother-whore, and ultimately, they all answer to her.
What can we conclude from this? All roads lead to Rome, right? Well, unfortunately, many of our so-called evangelicals are assimilating with this image. Rome has been the ancient enemy of the Gospel, since it's inception. It started with Pagan Rome, to what we have now, "Christian" Rome. But I argue that it's still Pagan Rome, only disguised as Christian. For Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light, right? (2 Cor 11:14). Rome has been working to discredit and counter the Protestant reformation for centuries. But many evangelicals either don't understand this and are deceived themselves, or they are actively working with the mother whore to deceive people. There are quite a few on both sides of this aisle, but they are both flirting with this whore. 

The Southern Baptist Convention, the largest Protestant denomination in the world, and once the strongest and soundest to Biblical doctrine, has now become apostate. The sad state of the SBC is appalling to many, yet those who are in charge are lending a deaf ear. We have the president of the SBC, Dr. Ronnie Floyd, leading us into a New Age way of thinking about the future of the church, and promoting New Age materials on his blog while preaching false doctrine from his pulpit.  We have the president of the SBC's Ethics and Religious Liberties Commission as well as well known "pastor" of Saddleback Social Club, Rick Warren, watering down the Gospel and fellowshipping with Catholics at the Vatican. Russell Moore parading down the street with unbelievers, pretending they are brothers and sisters in Christ, giving them a false sense of hope, all for political and social gain. Russell Moore even thinks it's okay for Christians to celebrate homosexuality at the reception of a gay wedding, as long as we don't attend the gay wedding itself. Lifeway Bookstores, the publishing branch of the Southern Baptist Convention, is peddling more heresy now than almost any other bookstore, secular or Christian in nature, all for monetary gain.

Other so-called mega-church pastors, like Joel Osteen, are now the face of the Evangelical church. Joel Osteen has been preaching damnable heresies for years, never once calling his millions of fans to repentance, which is required for salvation. The 700-club with Pat Robertson and Cindy Jacobs promotes the false teachings and lies of the New Apostolic Reformation. Steven Furtick of Elevation Church in Charlotte, NC has spent multi-millions upon millions of dollars to build state of the art social clubs all around the area, leading hundreds of thousands, if not millions, into apostasy. Heretic James Robison, (who hosts SBC's vision-from-God-receiving and ecumenical Beth Moore's weekly program), claims he was "so moved by the Gospel message of the pope, that he asked the translator for a high five."

What does this say to these people? It says, "don't worry, the sin you're caught up in is okay, God loves you anyways, you don't need to turn away from it.... we're brothers and sisters in Christ anyways." There is no clear biblical truth being taught in our churches anymore, as once was the stronghold of the Evangelical Church. We used to stand on this Biblical truth, and proclaim it without shame. When our leadership is too weak to call false religions to repentance, and decide to stand with them instead, they are by default working to build the harlot church. They are working to fill the golden cup of abominations. They are serving their idols and worshiping their gods. God tells us in Revelations 18:4-5 "Then I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues; for her sins are heaped high as heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities." If we are participating in these activities with false churches, we are partaking in their sins. 

We are called to stand apart from this sin, calling sinners to repentance, not indulge in it. Why don't these mainstream "evangelical" figures understand this? I think they do. I think they are knowingly, and purposely working against the Gospel. If you believe and fear the Word of God, you must be obedient to it. But they are not. They openly reject the commands of God, giving him the finger, and saying "I'll do this my way." Sadly, man's way leads to Hell (Prov. 14:12). Russell Moore must know this. Joel Osteen must know this. Beth Moore, James Robison, Cindy Jacobs, and all of these other false teachers out in Evangeland... they MUST know this, yet they continue to flip God off, never facing their criticism. They one one hand speak truth, perhaps occasionally preaching sound doctrine, and then on the other hand mix in error, teaching lies, and living in ungodly ways, which is the tactic of Satan to lead people astray. I hate to say it, but these are the people that are working in the spirit of Antichrist, fornicating with the mother of harlots, and building the one world religion of the Beast. They need to be tested

"Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world. You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. They are of the world. Therefore they speak as of the world, and the world hears them. We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error." - 1 John 4:1-6






Tuesday, January 27, 2015

Saddle Up! Rick Warren and the SBC's spiritually hazardous line-up.

By now, it's no doubt that Rick Warren has not let the criticism from fellow believers, advice from his colleagues, or even the Word of God stand in his way of promoting questionable practices, ideas and beliefs in his ministry at Saddleback Church. In the past, he has promoted (and currently still does promote) unbelievers like Dr. Mehmet Oz, a Swedenborg cult follower, Dr. Daniel Amen, a teacher of tantric sex (a mystical approach to a perverted form of sex), and Dr. Mark Hyman, a propagator of Buddhist meditation techniques. Despite the outpouring from the discerning evangelical community decrying Warren's associations as unbiblical, he pressed on with his docket as though he was deaf to all reasoning.It doesn't look like it will be any different in 2015. His calendar includes a laundry list of questionable teachers in which events and Bible studies will be based. Among the inventory of evil-doers is false teacher, Kenneth Boa, an advocate for the unbiblical practice of contemplative prayer, and new age practice of lectio divina, or divine reading. Boa says in his Introduction to Sacred Reading:
Most contemporary approaches to Bible study have more in common with the scholastics than with the monastics. ...they are more concerned with informational reading than with formational reading. ... But when evangelicals study Scripture, they typically look more for precepts and principles than for an encounter with God in the depths of their being. The practice of lectio divina can correct this lack of balance...
This "lectio divina" that he promotes is nothing more than Eastern Mysticism, that engages one in an altered state of mind, and the participants have a mystical experience of "finding God within themselves." This notion of God "within us" is a form of New Age thought known as panentheism. Panentheism, similar to pantheism, is an extremely heretical view of God that makes him out to be on the same spiritual level as man. But the Bible presents God as being present everywhere (omnipresent), but not in everything (Psalm 139:7-10), all knowing, and never learning (omniscient) (Job 28:24; Psalm 147:4-5), being all powerful (omnipotent) (Job 42:1-2), self-existent, as opposed to a created being like man (Exodus 3:14; Psalm 36:9), eternal, without beginning and without end (Psalm 90:2; Habakkuk 1:12), changless and unmoving (Psalm 33:11; James 1:17), perfect and pure (Deuteronomy 32:3-4), and infinite, immeasurable and everlasting (Job 5:9; 9:10).

I can't imagine why someone calling themselves a pastor, and a shepherd to God's people would allow such nonsense within the doors of their sanctuary. But it doesn't stop there. Sadly, Saddleback church, in the name of ecumenism, has now picked up the Catholic practice of the "Stations of the Cross." The "Stations of the Cross," or Via Dolorosa, is a catholic tradition of visually walking through the final hours of Jesus' life on the way to the cross. The ritual is a way of eliciting emotions from the faithful based on a visual representation and imagery that is either unverifiable in Scripture, or contradictory to it. This Catholic form of mysticism is thoroughly subjective and experiential. It claims, in contradiction to Scripture (Isaiah 1:18, Proverbs 4:7, 2 Peter 1:3, etc.) that God can't be known or understood through intellectual reasoning, and one needs to "experience" him through subjective ritualistic techniques. Though some of the more far-fetched of the traditional stations have been removed or cut-back, the idea is still the same.

As if this weren't enough to make you cringe, the women will be holding a 12 week Bible study onThe Message, which purports to be a paraphrased translation of the Bible in contemporary language. During an interview with Michael Cusick of Mars Hill Review, some of the startling statements made by Peterson were: "One of the Devil's finest pieces of work is getting people to spend three nights a week in Bible studies," "But most Christians know far more of the Bible than they’re living. They should be studying it less, not more. You just need enough to pay attention to God," and " I’m just not at all pleased with all the emphasis on Bible study as if it’s some kind of special thing that Christians do, and the more they do the better." I wish I could make this stuff up, but please see the source for yourself. Yet, Saddleback Church has invited this man's demonic influence right into the innocent hearts of his women's congregations.
the book of Psalms by none other than Eugene Peterson. Peterson is the author of the highly controversial book,

But of course there's more. There's the usual heretics, Beth Moore, Priscilla Shirer, etc. Where is the discernment at Saddleback? We already know who Rick Warren is, and what he stands for, but out of the multiple thousands upon thousands of members in this organization are there really no real men to stand up and say, "Hey, wait a minute, something isn't right here?" Why are more leaders of the Southern Baptist Convention not standing up and speaking out against these heresies? Is it because they are too busy peddling their own heresy for profit? Too busy cozying up with the pope of the largest demonic organization in the world? Too busy preaching false doctrines for monetary gain and promoting mysticism from the pulpit? Too busy pushing communist racial reconciliation agendas instead of focusing on sound doctrine and leading people to Christ? These mega-churches and mega-pastors are a mess... a huge mess, and our Southern Baptist leaders are no better. In fact, they're horrible. They are totally unaccountable, they hide from any criticism, and they team together to defend each other. I don't really care if this upsets anyone, because I am sick of it. It's time to clean house in the SBC. We need leaders who will stand up for sound biblical doctrine, preach the Word of God, and hold accountable the false teachers within the organization that won't. Let's take out the trash.